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I think all police should have Narcan BUT if used person should have to pay or agree to get help .
Debbie Todd they should be immediately arrested and thrown in jail for possessing a CDS
Christopher John Karbownik I agree but at least they should have to pay for the meds and Emts. its free so they do it again
Debbie Todd it’s great to have the narcan but I agree with you completely! If you don’t want help fine but you have to pay for the resources. Unfortunately they first responders will probably never see that money.
Yea cause throwing them in jail is gonna help! None the less alot more money will be wasted throwing them in jail. Housing of jail, public pretenders, oops I mean public defenders, judges, prosecutors, TASK evaluates, bail reform spokesman, probation, anything I miss I’m sure there is. Narcan $35! Lmao
Then I guess heart patients that don’t follow their recommended diet should also have to pay for paddles and ems..???… So ridiculous!!!!… Narcan is not only a medication it is a life saving device!… But I do think after multiple visits to the same person they should be court ordered into a rehab or an out patient clinic.. Something on the order of Drug Court…
To the people saying throw them in jail and make them pay u have no idea what the disease is god damn people
Tricia Januska did you ever see the bill of a heart patient?? I have. Yes. They have to pay whatever insurance doesn’t cover and yes, the paddles and nitro are expensive.. junkies most likely don’t have health insurance and sure as hell don’t care about paying a bill.. they only want to pay for their next fix.. apples and oranges comparing junkies to heart patients
John Praznic But you are forgetting they keep doing it over and over again sometimes mult times in 24 hr
Bobby Lightbody I never said put them in jail ,I said they should have to go get help !
Tricia Januska but if you have a heart attack they take you to the hospital and you get help . not go back out the same night and do it again and again
Debbie Todd who says they don’t use this to get better. If the resources are available many do.
I have met numerous people who have had heart attacks and they make. No life style
Changes and end up dead. But they were given a chance when EMS workers used the
Paddles to save their lives.
Debbie Todd People aren’t exactly conscious and alert when you narcan them…
Debbie Todd they do it again because there is an addiction.
John Praznic It cost a lot more than $35 to send out a police and EMS team to administer Narcan.
Tricia Januska stop defending criminals
Debbie Todd not much sympathy for users from me, but I think it’s way too much of a slippery slope to have a requirements for first aid
All these people are paying for all these things. I don’t understand why you think they aren’t.
Elsa Wyres-Small it’s sad that everyone thinks it needs to be one vs the other. Addiction is a horrible disease as is heart disease and diabetes and cancer…no one persons life is less valuable then the next. And this comes from seeing each of these first hand in family and as a nurse.
You don’t just get heart disease from a bad diet. Innocent babies are born with heart defects. Should they be punished?
April Meyers drug addiction is not a disease. It was a choice!! They choose to take that drug!! Nobody chooses to get cancer or MD etc.
Melanie Nau Keating amen!! I hate when people say it’s a disease!!!! Cancer is a disease! Junkies choose to put the drug in their body. No one asks for cancer or heart disease to ravage their bodies they never asked for it. Junkies know what could happen.. idiots!! Hey, I’m going to choose to shoot dope… then I’m addicted now I have a disease!? Get the hell out of here!! Lol
Elsa Wyres-Small ????????????????
Bobby Lightbody it’s not a disease! it’s a goddamn choice it’s a decision they made!
they knew what they were doing when they stop that needle in their arm the very first time!
No one asks to get cancer or lupus or any other disease!
Debbie Todd I didnt say u did i
Elsa Wyres-Small look in the medical books it’s a disease you have to treat it like any other when u went through it that talk to me
+2 Narcan = Alert & Conscious.
Ocean County Scanner News Unfortunately they’ll be pissed that their high was wrecked & they’ll just go do it again ????
Ocean County Scanner News I wish someone had called so my daughter could have been saved.
Cathy Wilson not
All. All is an absolute and nothing is absolute
Annette Crawford Hall….so sorry❤️
Annette Crawford Hall omg so sorry to here that
Ocean County Scanner News 1 bourbon 1scotch 1 beer.=good times!!!
Annette Crawford Hall I’m sorry to hear of your loss of your daughter. I can’t imagine the pain and anguish you have endured ????
Ocean County Scanner News $800 late, they live to OD another day.
Should have a list accessible of previous patents that had Been revived with narcan and a limit to how manytimes they will be rescued get name tyoe in ok he done this twice before sorry sucker we’re not saving your lives again… one less addict using up resources
Terry McCoy Gardner I agree!!
That’s kinda like saying “yeah so we given this diabetic insulin twice sorry you gotta die.” Narcan is a revival tool to addicts as insulin is to diabetics.
Shar Fry diabetes at least in my case is not a choice is a disorder I was born with. It’s a choice to not take insulin and ruin my kidneys heart lungs eyes by not taking my medications. They are putting poison in their body as a choice. If I don’t eat right and don’t take my medications no one is going to come around with a Magic medication to correct the problems with my body from not taking my medication it but eating right. Only thing they may do is start cutting off limbs because u choose not to take care off my self until I finally die. They chose to put poison in there body well knowing the consequences of their actions. Just see a fat persons can’t take a magic medication to suddenly stop over eating and become skinny. Why is it our financial responsibility to help a drug addict that ods over and over. If they want to Kik themselves let them already
Shar Fry insulin is for a disorder narcan is to stop some fool from oding when all they wanna do it get high
Terry McCoy Gardner so we let them die. Ems and police are here to make us stable. They don’t get to pick and chose which lives are worth saving. My daughter was with saving. She just
Didn’t make it.
What about drunk drivers, do we not respond to those calls because the driver is a drunk or the kid using his cell phone.
Terry McCoy Gardner Drug addiction is a medical disease according to the World Health Organization. People can’t just stop. Yes, they choose to put poison into their body. That doesn’t mean they deserve to die. They made a mistake. They need treatment. Saying “a fat person can’t just stop overeating” is literally the same thing.
Terry McCoy Gardner you’re clearly not a decent person.
Terry McCoy Gardner addictions listed as a disorder ????????♂️ HENCE narcan.
Jessica Rasmussen completely missing the point ????
If you want to deny medical treatment that’s fine but what you propose here is fundamentally retarded.
Terry McCoy Gardner ur an idiot
Shar comparing narcan which a junkie needs cuz they CHOOSE to use drugs to insulin which helps diabetes which someone is usually BORN with is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve heard, and get outta here with that bullshit disorder crap, it’s a fucking choice to become a scumbag junkie
Really Terry?? This coming from a mother whos son recently got out of PRISON. Don’t pretend you don’t have any addicts or alcoholics in your family.
Scott Oriento ????%
Sharon Lynn Huber No just perverts ????
Terry McCoy Gardner nonsense. That will NEVER HAPPEN we dont get to decide which emergencies get treated and who is left to die. That’s ridiculous .. This does NOT cost taxpayers so tell me how thus impacts YOUR life that you think people should be left to die.. Are YOU out there treating them?
And Terry you say diabetes isnt a choice.. Well how about type 2 diabetics that have it because of poor eating habits. Should we let them die????? How about patients with respiratory problems. Should we say NO OXYGEN for you because you smoked so it was your choice you knew the risk? If someone has a heart attack should we say you are overweight and didn’t exercise or eat right you caused this..? Stop the ignorance. YOU aren’t treating them or paying for it mind your own
Gage Kullberg for many people poor lifestyle choices DO lead to diabetes. You are not correct. Same with people with lung disease who used to smoke or STILL SMOKE.. Should I withhold oxygen? People overweight with heart disease.. Should I withhold treatment cause these people chose that lifestyle and knew the risk?
Angel Helene Cooper narcan Cody’s money don’t it? Who’s paying for it someone is it’s but the person getting high
Angel Helene Cooper we do let them die if they can’t afford medication if they fall in the cracks I see it ask the time
Terry McCoy Gardner do you think YOU pay for it?? Who paid all that money for your kids food and shelter and medical in jail??? Stop being a hypocrite!!!!!!!! You lady are in NO position to question the minimal cost of a narcan dose.
As a matter of fact I had a heart attack in 2019 my income fell three the cracks didn’t have money for medication to prevent a second one and had yet another heart attack because if a genetic problem!
Angel Helene Cooper I paid for my kids food I pay taxes
Terry McCoy Gardner you DO know who I am right? Its been many years but I’m sure you must know
Angel Helene Cooper my children never shot to drugs
Terry McCoy Gardner prison jail cost MUCH more money to taxpayers than a dose of friggin narcan
Terry McCoy Gardner you obviously don’t know what Angel does for a living lol. I am quite sure she is so much more educated and invested on the subject than you are. Stop being ignorant. Teach your children to not be a drain on taxpayers and stop being so judgmental of others when you are in no position to be. You prisonchild cost the taxpayers much more for his bad decisions than narcan does
Sharon Werth you won’t get through to her. Hypocrites never look in the mirror and I will narcan whoever needs it whenever they need it whether she approves or not. Fortunately the people in our field aren’t as ignorant and wouldn’t withhold medical treatment or allow another human to die
You have no medical qualifications but pretend to know more about ems/emt/paramedic than me who has 30 years in the field lol
Criminal law. Social work. Driver and lpn not listed lol. I know better than all that
Then we should limit the people who have heart attacks and saving them people who have never been through addiction dont speak on ot jesus christ
Bobby Lightbody Some people have no common sense they just don’t understand a sickness Until God forbid it happens to someone in their family then it would be a different story
Bobby Lightbody I’ve had several heart attacks am a diabetic and had v to change everything about my living to save my own life. How I eat how I exercise what I eat! No one could save me from my self but me so why should we save drug addicts over and over an illness if you don’t learn how to control it it will kill you if addiction is an illness you learn to control it or it will kill you. No matter how much medication you take if you don’t care for your body it will stop working why shouldn’t we limit how much help we give to an addict that chooses to stick that stuff in their own arms!
Terry McCoy Gardner it’s not that easy have u been a addict do you know what it does to you
Terry McCoy Gardner you sure have a lot to say for someone who isn’t an addict.
Jessica Rasmussen amen I’m a recovering addict with 7 awesome years clean I dont care who knows addiction is a bitch
Bobby Lightbody that is stupid!! Drug addiction was a choice they made. They took the drug on purpose!!
Melanie Nau Keating exactly
Bobby Lightbody no clue but I know I chose to never personally find it what addicts go threw. I wouldn’t code to inject poison into My body. It body is a temple! We only get one and I cherish mine! Meaning I don’t do stupid stuff to ruin it!
Jessica Rasmussen I have allot to say because I’m not an addict! I chose to cherish the one and only body and life I have! I’ve has 14 heart attacks lost a lung been threw more medical crap then you have any clue of! Been hit by a truck! Live with pain every day but I chose to feel that pain and to cherish every breath my body showed me! I do anything to stay cv alive and not try to trash my body by filling it with drugs to get high or forget what’s gone on in my life! I’ve been beaten raped molested been homeless raised a child when I was a child myself! Been poor been week off! Lost my best friend bf husband young to a heart attack Even was a burn victim! Nothing life has thrown out me did I have to numb from my mind with drugs! Life is what you make it! If you make yourself of you should live or die with those consequences
Melanie Nau Keating one thing I do know for sure is only god can judge nobody has a right to be judge juror and executioner except for god….you may not be addicted to drugs.. but I’m 1010 percent sure your addicted to something we all have addicted personalitys and well what do you want a cookie cause you didnt have to go through the bullshit us addicts do congrats.. one thing I learned we all bleed the same blood RED…..and another thing when someone points one finger at u 4 is pointing back at you….and I pray that you never have to go through this with a family member cause then you will understand what we go through…
Bobby Lightbody her family are only sexual deviants. So she is above all that . Prison costs money so maybe we should kill them too so we don’t have to use taxpayers money since she is so concerned with what she pays for narcan
Bobby Lightbody i hope not. My family knows that drugs are not good for you. If you choose to have a cookie or heroin, remember it’s a choice! A cookie will not kill you but a shot of heroin will. 2 different things!
Jessica Rasmussen why because we know how to say NO I am not going to do that !
I’m so tired of these addicts that cry “ woo is me” and keep shooting crap into there bodies! One time help ok maybe twice but hello when your gonna realize someone intervened to save your life you are choosing not to respect? Everyone feel sorry for them but they don’t do anything to do the cycle! I was a teen pregnant homeless no one did for me I had to get off my ass work ave fix my own life and why should anyone else not have to take responsibility for their own life over and over again
Terry McCoy Gardner when one of your family members. Let’s say your son. Is overdosing and dying. I guarantee you’ll be on the phone screaming for the narcan
Andrew Michael if my son or family member chooses that path so be it. Half my siblings are hiked in that shit and I have 28 1/2 abs step siblings. I lost a nephew to the shit! I had my only biological and a step brother commit suicide! It’s there buddy there choice! They wanna kill themself with a drug then let them die already
Andrew Michael and her son has been in prison draining the taxpayers. Pervert family
Deidra Henry my sons choices in life are hugs but if you must know what my son was accused of he didn’t do my ex husband did and eventually got caught and he is in prison paying for his crime one know your facts
We’re not talking about who did what and went to I’m prison we’re talking about people who use heroin over and over even after we continue to save their lives over and over from od
You are the only 1 that believes your son is innocent. Everyone in prison is falsely accused. Your own father and your son both . people shouldn’t be hypocrites. Talking about others problems when they have enough in their own family
Deidra Henry I’m not talking about anyone specific in just staying we should stop coddling drug addicts that cone their own fate
Everyone has a choice if free will if you make a choice then you live with that choice no matter what the choice I’ve had to live with my choices my entire life why do people think they don’t need to new held accountable for the choices they make in life? One time is a mistake to do something over and over Again is not a mistake! Plain and simple!
Morbid Obesity is also, a choice. Glass houses Terry. Put the stones down.
Kevin Karlick Ok I weigh 225 lbs who cares? I have a paralyzed stomach abs take medications that contain steroids because of a nerve damaged in a whiplash accident when I was hit by a truck! I’m fat I live with my choices rather be fat then live with a feeding tube. I’m not throwing stones At a specific person never mentioned anyone by name! Just saying in my own way when it’s enough enough when it’s it helping and when is it just enabling! Mandatory long term rehab or something should be a requirement if we and we do pay threw taxes threw grants monies come from somewhere but pharmacy don’t give narcan away for free! Everyone has choices in life I was a single min highly out at 18 I had to man up and take care of me noobe enabled me! When are people going to take responsibility for their own lives and own situations! And we wonder why our national debt is so high and why our taxes keep going up! You all might as well be putting the needle in their arm
Good for you !!!
Real easy fix, after 2 times receiving narcan it should be mandatory to go to rehab for at least 6 months. If you come out and need narcsan again you go back for 1 year. Maybe this will be the help they need.
Patricia Nosiay Clarino i have written and called suggesting this- also that they work at the rehab to pay for it. Nobody wants to hear it.
Suz Grillo I agree! I guess it’s falling on deaf ears.
You can NOT put stipulations on emergency medical treatment ever. If there is an emergency its treated period. You cant put terms on it that a patient is not in a position to consent to
Angel Helene Cooper you CAN have consequences if that medical treatment was caused by something ILLEGAL. The problem is NO REPERCUSSIONS, just constant little pats on the ass instead ????
Michael La Velle I’m sorry but you cant. We can not tell a patient on a 911 call they had too many narcans. I can not tell a patient they have to die cause I only treat someone twice . we can NOT say that we narcanned them and now that they are conscious they must be put in rehab. We cant do this sorry you are wrong
Angel Helene Cooper well it should be REHAB or JAIL ! they need help to stop and will not do it them self
Angel Helene Cooper it would be a consequence !! rehab or jail after 3 strikes
Angel Helene Cooper Apparently your way of coddling drug users ISN’T working. It’s a crisis. EXTREME measures & CONSEQUENCES need to be deterrents. Or just let people keep dying your way
Angel Helene Cooper where did you get your information from that this cannot be done? Is it written somewhere?
I feel for anyone that has an addict in the circle but people need to be responsible for the choices they make. We don’t help alcoholics dying of their disease unless they take a step to help themselves. Otherwise they die a painful death with people who love them suffering the same pain as drug addicts loved ones. It’s not addressing any issues by reviving people who just continue the path. It may only cost $ but no one is suing for it but taxpayers or if corporations step up it costs everyone else but the shareholders. It’s a slippery slope.
Chris Roller incorrect. If someones alcoholism leads them to a medical emergency we DO treat . some get cirrhosis. Some pancreatitis. Etc. We treat the medical emergencies that all addictions cause
Angel Helene Cooper thanks for the info. I was unaware of this.
There should be a limit! Why keep wasting resources on someone whos just going to walk away from oding and buy Another bag. They are disgusting. Addiction is a fucking choice for fuck sakes. The whiney voices of oh i have a disease… ????
Michelle Lyne Nay-lor agreed!!!!
Michelle Lyne Nay-lor you’re a disease
Do you seriously think there should be a limit and after x amount of doses I should walk away and let the person die? Thats ridiculous. We treat ALL medical emergencies. If I see a smoker with lung disease should I say no oxygen for you because you chose this? If I have a type 2 diabetic or overweight person having cardiac issues do I say you CHOSE to eat unhealthy and not exercise knowing the risk so sorry drop dead? Come on
Ignorance is a choice too
Angel Helene Cooper you haveno proof that their CHOICE led to heart disease or lung issues etc however you KNOW their CHOICE to use drugs led to their issue! See the difference??
Angel Helene Cooper yeah because they arent sticking a fucking dirty needle in their arm to get high.
they CHOSE to be am addict. You arent born with “oh this person is going to be an addict, gtfo! If a junkie wants to keep getting high and end up dying thats their choice!
If you do render aid to an overdose, where gloves or don’t touch their skin or clothes. Fentenyl is easily absorbed through the skin, so your good intentions could get you killed. I’d really rather my tax dollars go to buy insulin for diabetics or chemotherapy for those who need it.
Angel Helene Cooper no one is saying let them die .it should be mantuary Rehab or jail ,They need help and will not get it them self .you said they are not in their right mind to make decisions.so lets get them help
Abby Safer
The addiction/choice vs disease debate is getting old.
It’s not the first responders job to judge, it’s a frustrating situation but always have to look at it as “its someone’s son or daughter”
They gunna narcan em and a hour later he ll just get high again
If they smart they ll do the right thing
What are we supposed to do say oh poor you here is some more narcan we have to spend our hard earned money on so you can go lie cheat and steal then take those proceeds to shoot your arm so we can spend even more of our money to keep saving your life? Yet a diabetic has to go with out medication or insulin or a heart patent can’t get plavix to save their life because of insurance or lack their of! True story I had two widow maker clots holloween 2010 got two stents was 95% blocked! Husband ran off with a 18 yo girl while in was hospitalized took everything off value and all my money! I had a 19 yo in college I Couldn’t work! Welfare turned me down for any help because I got 440 a month in child support! So four weeks later I had another heart attack because I couldn’t scrape together 98 dollars for plavix!
Terry McCoy Gardner oh stfu comparing diabetes to addiction . You sound moronic
Terry McCoy Gardner btw. Most diabetics have diabetes because of their fcking diet and being obese . They could change but won’t . Should we restrict their insulin ?
Laura Schneider Lange they do
I’m a type 1 diabetic all my life many years I lived with no medication having to live daily with 500 plus sugar reading water exercise and diet restriction no carbs to survive spreading out insulin reusing needles to survive! Have you ever had to live with out medication needed to keep you alive because you made 50 dollars to much but couldn’t afford medical insurance or copayments? I have it’s not pretty! Have you ever had to inject insulin then your sugar finally comes down allowing blood flow to your appendages which in return causes extreme pain b when they finally can work properly
Terry’s perverted son cost us more in prison than any narcan users
So I just looked up the verification site. Zero nurses in NJ license history with your name. Or the other last names you go by including K. But there was a home health aid revoked with your name in browns mills lol.
Deidra Henry I’ve never been a home health aid. You obviously looking up the wrong person
I only go by one name Terry Gardner McCoy was my name in school
Deidra Henry I am over 21 I vote I pay taxes and I get to choose to have my own opinion! I’m not attacking others character or that of their family members because of your thoughts and feelings on the matter of addiction and how to handle it!
Deidra Henry obviously you not looking up the right person
calling addiction a disease is just a sad excuse for not being to admit that you have a problem or did have a problem!
name one person that says im addicted to cancer or i’m addicted to chemo !
????
Stop giving Narcan to repeat offenders.
Scott Therrien are you in EMS? If not you should probably just stop telling us what to do. If you are going to give me the authority to decide which medical emergencies i can walk away from then you should probably hope you never need 911
Angel Helene Cooper dont need people walking around like zombies in this town..
“Jesus is the proven cure for the drug epidemic.” -Rev. David Wilkerson Founder of Teen Challenge
Another loser
Mandatory rehab. Required with narcan. And not just 7 days. That might help some problems. Who knows?
mandatory rehab or jail
Wow the comments on this post got a bit out of hand!
I Hate Heroin N Pills Killing Everyone
Paty Prahl well if it’s never picked up and used it can’t kill. Sad truth