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Terrible ?
Terrible ?
Not surprised!
Not surprised!
I mean they can’t rise to it more than once, right?
I mean they can’t rise to it more than once, right?
Everyone always comments negative things about narcan…. I wonder what this number would be without narcan?
10000
Scott A Barnes easily
Everyone always comments negative things about narcan…. I wonder what this number would be without narcan?
10000
Scott A Barnes easily
Explain how Narcan has fixed the problem if the number of ODs is at an all time high
Christopher John Karbownik this isn’t the number of ODs. This is the number of DEATHS. Narcan solves the problem of dying of an overdose so a parent doesn’t need to bury their 20 year old kid. So the addict has a chance at recovery.
And before anyone starts with that “narcan enables addicts” no it does not. I am in recovery, and I’m gonna tell you, narcan never once factored into my drug using decisions. Ever.
Tim Kanski I say they get rid of narcan for a few years so we can see. . . For science
Erik Dollman don’t cut yourself on all the edge bro
The Narcan Express didn’t exist a few years ago, and there were fewer OD deaths than there is now with them running around blasting everyone back awake. Do the math genius.
Christopher John Karbownik fentanyl is much more prevalent than it was a few years ago. Correlation doesn’t mean causation. Your opinions are very nice but maybe a public health crisis is more complicated than you think.
Maybe things aren’t as complicated as the government brain washes you to believe they are. It’s simple economics. It’s why VCRs are out of production and sale.
Christopher John Karbownik okay, I’m gonna end the conversation here. Have a great day ?
Christopher John Karbownik dude don’t remember. He’s like 18.
^ If he is 18, that says a lot about you elders. His words are that of an educated man. One whom after schooling you with actual facts & wisdom, can then gracefully say, have a nice day.
Tim Kanski People are just so fucking stupid. The immaturity and fkn ignorance just goes to show how much trouble we are in ….
Today’s ignorant youth. Pampered and fkn lazy
Barbara Lynn I don’t think people are stupid. But I think they’re quick to act and speak without thinking.
It might not seem like it’s getting better out there, but it is. Just not so quickly ?
How can you claim it’s getting better when the number of OD deaths is the highest it’s ever been, instead of the number going down? Do you understand math?
Christopher John Karbownik because the people ODing are chronic users. New users are at a minimum.
Christopher John Karbownik because the people ODing are chronic users. New users are at a minimum.
oh yea I’m the immature uneducated one. Lol. Yup. Career, retirement plan, benefits, vehicles, motorcycles, house, other big boy toys and never an addiction problem. Yea I’m the one with the problems in here. ???
oh yea I’m the immature uneducated one. Lol. Yup. Career, retirement plan, benefits, vehicles, motorcycles, house, other big boy toys and never an addiction problem. Yea I’m the one with the problems in here. ???
Erik Dollman you have all that a complete lack of perspective. A lack of compassion. It prob would be easier for society if we just let all the addicts die. And the poor. And the sick. And the old. And the homeless. And the disabled. That’s not how we act as a society.
Erik Dollman you have all that a complete lack of perspective. A lack of compassion. It prob would be easier for society if we just let all the addicts die. And the poor. And the sick. And the old. And the homeless. And the disabled. That’s not how we act as a society.
Erik Dollman
The reason there are more deaths is that fentanyl is secretly being put in heroin
The user does not know at least most of the time
Heroin is deadly, fentanyl kills even those with a tolerance to heroin
All the perks of a great life through hard work…but the one thing your missing is a heart… Just wait till the ugly disease comes crawling under your door of your beautiful home and you dont have the money or will power to stop it from affecting your family. Then you will understand that having a heart is 10 fold to the materialistic bullshit….
Hey Barb hope all is well…The fight is endless especially on the front lines…
Christopher John Karbownik not true
Christopher John Karbownik not true
Erik has never had perspective past what was told to him
Erik has never had perspective past what was told to him
Barbara Lynn age has shit to do with this nor does generations
Sad … these drug dealers of heroin how do they look at themselves in the mirror… look at all the families you helped fuck up! Just to make a buck! no compassion left for fellow man! ONLY Greed!
The same way Wal-Mart and Dick’s Sporting Goods and Spirits Unlimited does. Everyone has a choice, even junkies. Those stores sell knives, guns, and alcohol, all proven to kill tens of thousands of people a year. People need to wisen up, get self control, and make better choices.
Agreed!
Ahhhhh.. choices.
Karen Kennedy good choices. Bad choices. Choose wisely folks ?
Christopher John Karbownik
Ignorance is bliss
Christopher John Karbownik horrible comparison..good to see the Anne Coulter of OCSN back on
Christopher John Karbownik
Diane Araneo thank u for posting this.
Dawn Dichiara Wyckoff your very welcome!!! Plus its the truth. I love when people try to debate this. It’s a classified disease, so opinions don’t really matter.
And yes……We Do Recover!!!
Diane Araneo i know i have a luvd one that had back surgery got addicted from all the pills they.were feeding him before and after surgery. It turned our life upside down and backwards.
But, but, but, i thought we were being told it was getting better!!!
Christopher John Karbownik facts and proven figures prove any naysayer wrong even trolling ones
Stop wasting money on narcan!! Start giving free CHEMO AND EPIPENS AND INSULIN to those who need it. No one CHOSE to have need these things! Addicts CHOSE to be addicts. ??♀️
Brett Johnson I would feel a lot better if I could carry around an EpiPen every day again
Brett, Ignorance is bliss, eh?
Sharon Lynn Huber if someone overdoses, they use narcan. If someone can’t afford chemo, they will die. Do you understand here?
Sharon Lynn Huber and i’ve had numerous friends overdose and die from this shit. Idc. My sister died from cancer, that I DO CARE
So true my sister has a cancer treatment balance of $54000. Needs 6 more
Denise Falone Ferriolo It sucks! But yet, let’s all feel sorry for the addicts who CHOSE to do what they do!
Ignorant..
Brett Johnson predisposed…to the environment…still a proven mental disease and comparing it to chemo treatment is unrealistic and a total non argument
Scott A Barnes mental disease ??? No, it’s called people who have no will power. But that’s funny. Thanks! ??
Brett Johnson or they can apply
For charity care and get their chemo free.
Brett Johnson you are plain and simple an asshole. You know nothing of addiction yet
You spout your heartless bull shit.
Annette Crawford Hall not all get approved for it.
Annette Crawford Hall also, not all have jobs that end up with cancer. Not all have money to be able to afford it especially in jersey
Annette Crawford Hall also, not all have jobs that end up with cancer. Not all have money to be able to afford it especially in jersey
Brett Johnson and you are who to say? What mental health and medical background do you have backing you? You are no one to iudge or to think you are an expert especially when you through scheme argument in…apples vs oranges..total straw man
Brett Johnson damn near all.takes time unfortunately…state and government shutdowns slow the process
Scott A Barnes first off, i’m a woman ??♀️ Secondly, I have seen how my friends became addicts and seen how total strangers became addicts. I have seen struggling cancer patients with trying to receive their chemo and couldn’t because of financial issues. But I also was a EMT and have seen how quickly they administer the narcan or even hospitals administer narcan. THAT is who I am to be able to judge. Because I have seen all this first hand
Scott A Barnes I don’t see how you think it’s funny that people with cancer cannot afford chemo ??♀️ You must be one of those intolerable people who have never had to watch a loved one die from cancer. ??♀️ Dude, go hang out with your addict friends because you seem to be really all for them. ??♀️ Just sayin
Brett Johnson so being a woman..gives you a right to judge? A former EMT? NOPE. not enough…not an expert enough compared tobthe hundreds of experts with years of studies and federal backing them. Addiction is federally recognized AS a disease…no opinion will chance it nor will a lol emoji
Brett Johnson never assume to know anything or bout anyone…I have seen plenty suffer from chemo n cancer and there is no comparison between chemo n barman so get informed…and addict friends…you classless hag.you know shit about me..you are no one STILL to think you are so much better than anyone…go to work or something maybe you’ll get informed there…Christ you’re nastier than that twit Karen…and that is low..just saying..
Done with trashy people thinking assuming is fact….done with whatever this “woman” is
Scott A Barnes More of a logical thinker and have seen this first hand. And the woman part was because earlier in your comment, you called me a man. ??♀️ truly you are the trash. What makes you think it’s more okay for addicts to have more of a chance at life then cancer patients? People with cancer did NOT CHOOSE to have cancer, people who are addicts CHOSE that lifestyle. ??♀️
Do you all not understand that narcan is not a medical cure? Narcan only revives the patient, same as electrical paddles. Narcan and chemo are two totally different things
Diane Araneo Oh I know, but you are completely missing the big picture
Opiate prescriptions by doctors are now dramatically low but opiate deaths are at an all time high. The war on doctors caring for patients who are truly suffering needs to be re-evaluated.
Colleen Flood-Kerico because it costs so lil to make on your own..what war on doctors do you see when it is so many other dactors
??♂️
Erik Dollman wow
You are an asshole
Yeah but let’s worry about what gender should be on birth certificate and Building a wall! Narcan helps Big pharmaceutical companies not the major drug problem.
90% of heroin comes in illegally from the Mexican border, so yes, we need a wall.
Curtis Niedrach Agreed it does but if El Chapo can dig tunnels hundreds of miles I’m sure a wall won’t stop the drugs it will slow down the people that’s about it.
Robert Anderton cuz a wall and a 3rd gender us not the topic..big pharma is a major factor..will no regulation on prices because so hag CEO said “her 400k bentley doesn’t drive itself”
Curtis Niedrach 90%….one youtube video is hardly a credible study
Before everyone says stop using narcan this saved my daughters life on dec 24 yes it was a choice the first time she used and yes I used to say it is choice but I also seen first hand how this destroys the person and without narcan I would have been burying my daughter for Christmas thank you rant over just remember these are kids to someone
Its a choice so be it they no what can happen. No sympathy whatsoever
Mark Zambella no human feeling whatsoever..still a disease
Mark Zambella I pray you never have a child fall into this demon and if you do let’s hope they have family they can go to not yourself for you are a straight up cold hearted man
Mark Zambella
Mark Zambella wow, need I say more
90% of the heroin comes across the Mexican border. Build the wall.
Ryan Thowers no disrespect but a wall is going to stop heroin or any drug from Mexico? Seriously ? No air or sea transport…no drug mules? No wall will work with the drug issue.
Ryan Thowers no disrespect but a wall is going to stop heroin or any drug from Mexico? Seriously ? No air or sea transport…no drug mules? No wall will work with the drug issue.
Janet Hessler Ford how can it hurt? What’s in place now is an absolute joke. There literally wide open sections of border. Chain link, fence, post and rail, etc…
How is that better than one continuous secured structure. I recommend you do some research into what the existing structure looks like. 95% of border patrol agents are in favor of the wall. It’s about making it harder for illegals and drugs to get here. A way to slow them down so there is better chance of apprehension.
Janet Hessler Ford https://www.facebook.com/112735922758892/posts/283776842321465/
Have a watch. He says 98% but it’s actually closer to 90% that comes from Mexico. What’s in place now isn’t working. What would it hurt to make the border more secure? Do you open your doors at night or do you lock them to keep the bad guys out?
Think what you want
Researche vs reality…publicity vs lives lost…..the wall…..a detergent at best, stopping the influx of drugs…..not gonna happen.
Janet Hessler Ford did you watch the video?
Janet Hessler Ford I’m sorry you let your political affiliations get in the way of common sense. Just so you know I’m not a trump supporter I’m pro America. Any way to make it more difficult to smuggle illegal firearms, drugs and contraband across the border sounds like a good idea to me. The current situation isn’t working.
Janet Hessler Ford hey by the way Kelly and I went to school together! I used to have such a crush on her ?
Kelly Lynch
Ryan Thowers since you so incorrectly assume my political affiliation I will remind you that you know nothing about ke so your opinions means shit. Look in my personal non political non anything opinion, drug dealers are scum and if I thought a freaking wall would work I’d be behind it. They will find a way around it. You want a bitch session find someone else. You are as entitled to you opinion as I am mine.
don’t mind me and mom slugging it out over here lol!
Ryan Thowers …you’re killing me you realize that right? From the wall to trump to assuming you know anything about my political affiliation….as for my daughter…she is an amazing woman I am so proud of…your crush on her shows you have ( or had lol ) a bit of sense anyway 🙂
Janet Hessler Ford plenty of common sense here. Felt the need for you to know I’m not a brainless hillbilly conservative. I’m just an American who realizes the true danger our southern border poses. I have a two year old and twins on the way. Anything to make their world safer is paramount to me.
Janet Hessler Ford https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2355309002
You can find plenty of articles supporting both sides of the argument. Many are sensationalized and leaning way left or right. Common sense prevails that anything to slow down the flow will increase arrests and therefore decrease illegal immigration and the exploits thereof.
Ryan Thowers …seriously I deal with politics every day, I know it better than you may realize. As for Kelly she has 2 amazing boys to get ready for bed, I’m sure this is last on her agenda. I’ll cut you a break because of her…this time lol.
Janet Hessler Ford ?♂️. Oh thanks so much for the pass
Ryan Thowers I never thought you a brainless hillbilly….we just have a different opinion that’s all…agree to disagree with the same result is all good to me
Ryan Thowers ….lol you’re welcome:)
Janet Hessler Ford take care Mrs. Ford. Very happy for you and all those grand babies!
Janet Hessler Ford take care Mrs. Ford. Very happy for you and all those grand babies!
Ryan Thowers …thank you. Kelly has 3 yr old twin sons..they are amazingly beautiful souls I am blessed to have in my life. I sincerely hope and pray you, your wife child and soon to be twins bless you as much. They are double the work but Ryan, the reward is beyond words. One thing we can both agree on is the war on drugs, how ever achieved its paramount and of utmost importance to succeed. I sincerely say a prayer for all …..how ever we achieve the common goal..achieving it is what matters. You take care of those babies Ryan….for they are our future .
Janet Hessler Ford I promise I’ll do my best. Our daughter who is now 2 is beyond a blessing. I pray they turn out half as amazing as she is! Take care ?
Ryan Thowers …ditto
Ryan Thowers no where near 90%..sounds like a fox or info wars study
Ryan Thowers congrats on the lil ones..I understand bout birder security…I just feel it should’ve been built in the fall of 2011…17 1/2 years ago
Ryan Thowers ?♀️??
Good less losers to deal with
Mark Zambella
The Sad Fact is Alcohol has been killing the same amount or maybe more for many of years…It just takes longer for them to die…..
Wheres our marijuana,oh wait the towns said NO for selling and growing so there goes that idea since the people would switch from 1 habit to another
Never judge that addict. Because they can be blessed with finding recovery and be the one that helps save your loved ones life
C H O I C E
all of our politicians have done nothing for years